{"id":61,"date":"2023-02-02T23:26:00","date_gmt":"2023-02-02T22:26:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.fu-berlin.de\/drs_podcast\/?p=61"},"modified":"2026-08-05T13:19:48","modified_gmt":"2026-08-05T11:19:48","slug":"s01-episode-1-dr-ole-schulz-trieglaff","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.fu-berlin.de\/drs_podcast\/2023\/02\/02\/s01-episode-1-dr-ole-schulz-trieglaff\/","title":{"rendered":"Looking Back: &#8222;You need a high tolerance towards frustration&#8230;&#8220;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>In this episode, we talk with Dr. Ole Schulz-Trieglaff about his experiences doing his doctorate at the International Max Planck Research School for Molecular Genetics and the Freie Universit\u00e4t in Berlin and about his transition from academia to industry. Dr. Schulz-Trieglaff earned his doctoral degree in 2008 and now works  at Illumnia in Cambridge in the UK.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Audio <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Download or listen to the audio version of the podcast <a href=\"https:\/\/careerberlin.de\/drspdcst\/DRS_S1_E2_OleAudio.m4a\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/careerberlin.de\/drspdcst\/DRS_S1_E2_OleAudio.m4a\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><em>This interview was conducted in February 2023.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Highlights<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>&#8222;&#8230; I mean I would say sort of like getting getting stuck it&#8217;s just part of the experience and trying to get out of it that&#8217;s I think the whole point of doing a doctorate, I guess, you know, you &#8211; it&#8217;s just not sort of like one straight line from start to end, that that&#8217;s what I would say. It&#8217;s just sort of like getting stuck occasionally and then making mistakes and then finding a way out again. This is part of the experience. So I would say don&#8217;t despair, it&#8217;s very common -&#8222;<\/p>\n<cite>from our interview with Dr. Schulz-Trieglaff<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">SUMMARY<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>English:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In this episode, Dr. Ole Schulz-Trieglaff talks about his journey from earning a PhD to becoming a software developer and bioinformatician in the UK. He describes his PhD experience as collaborative and appreciates the support of his primary advisor, though he believes having a second mentor would have helped.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dr. Schulz-Trieglaff discusses the challenges he faced during his research, including unexpected setbacks. He encourages others to see challenges as part of the learning process. Post-PhD, he struggled with job applications, feeling that early rejections were personal, but he later recognized this as a normal phase of life. He emphasizes that his doctorate taught him patience and resilience, as research answers are often complex.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>He details his transition from academia to industry, noting his advisor&#8217;s influence in prompting him to look at a growing company near Cambridge. After receiving a job offer, he accepted and experienced significant career growth. Currently, he leads a small team focused on innovative work and has worked on various projects.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When comparing academia and industry, Dr. Schulz-Trieglaff observes that academia involves shorter-term positions that may hinder long-term planning, while industry generally offers more stable job prospects, allowing for a stable lifestyle. He highlights that in academia, researchers often work alone on projects for tenure, while in industry, collaboration is expected, and project direction is usually determined by the company.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>[see the full transcript of episode <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.fu-berlin.de\/drs_podcast\/2026\/08\/05\/full-transcript-english-looking-back-you-need-a-high-tolerance-towards-frustration\/\" data-type=\"post\" data-id=\"1709\">here<\/a>]<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>German:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In dieser Folge spricht Dr. Ole Schulz-Trieglaff \u00fcber seinen Werdegang von der Promotion bis hin zu seiner T\u00e4tigkeit als Softwareentwickler und Bioinformatiker in Gro\u00dfbritannien. Er beschreibt seine Promotionszeit als von Zusammenarbeit gepr\u00e4gt und sch\u00e4tzt die Unterst\u00fctzung durch seinen Hauptbetreuer, merkt jedoch an, dass ein zweiter Mentor hilfreich gewesen w\u00e4re.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dr. Schulz-Trieglaff er\u00f6rtert die Herausforderungen, denen er w\u00e4hrend seiner Forschung begegnete, einschlie\u00dflich unerwarteter R\u00fcckschl\u00e4ge. Er ermutigt andere dazu, Herausforderungen als Teil des Lernprozesses zu betrachten. Nach Abschluss seiner Promotion hatte er Schwierigkeiten bei der Jobsuche und empfand fr\u00fche Absagen zun\u00e4chst als pers\u00f6nliche Zur\u00fcckweisung, erkannte sp\u00e4ter jedoch, dass dies eine normale Lebensphase ist. Er betont, dass er durch die Promotion Geduld und Resilienz gelernt habe, da Antworten in der Forschung oft komplex seien.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Er schildert detailliert seinen Wechsel von der Wissenschaft in die Industrie und hebt dabei den Einfluss seines Betreuers hervor, der ihn auf ein wachsendes Unternehmen in der N\u00e4he von Cambridge aufmerksam machte. Nachdem er ein Stellenangebot erhalten hatte, nahm er dieses an und durchlief eine erfolgreiche berufliche Entwicklung. Derzeit leitet er ein kleines Team, das sich auf innovative Aufgaben konzentriert, und hat bereits an verschiedenen Projekten mitgewirkt.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Beim Vergleich zwischen Wissenschaft und Industrie merkt Dr. Schulz-Trieglaff an, dass in der akademischen Welt oft kurzfristige Anstellungen vorherrschen, die eine langfristige Planung erschweren k\u00f6nnen, w\u00e4hrend die Industrie im Allgemeinen stabilere Berufsaussichten und damit einen best\u00e4ndigeren Lebensstil bietet. Er hebt hervor, dass Wissenschaftler:innen im akademischen Umfeld oft allein an Projekten arbeiten, um sich f\u00fcr eine Festanstellung (Tenure) zu qualifizieren, wohingegen in der Industrie Zusammenarbeit erwartet wird und die Ausrichtung der Projekte meist vom Unternehmen vorgegeben wird.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In this episode, we talk with Dr. Ole Schulz-Trieglaff about his experiences doing his doctorate at the International Max Planck Research School for Molecular Genetics and the Freie Universit\u00e4t in Berlin and about his transition from academia to industry. 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