Kirsten Middeke

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  • in reply to: Sauerteig ist doch ganz einfach… #1144
    Kirsten Middeke
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    You’re supposed to give your sourdough a name, because it’s a living organism and apparently people are better at caring for organisms when they have names. Mine doesn’t have a name, and I’ve had it for months. Suggestions?

    in reply to: Teaching grammar without grammar #888
    Kirsten Middeke
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    It’s possible (and useful) to teach grammar without using grammatical terminology. If you don’t talk about grammar at all, you’re probably not actually teaching. Some schools have language assistants to offer their expertise as native speakers in addition to the teacher, who does the actual teaching. Be careful not to eliminate your own (prospective) jobs by claiming that we don’t actually need people who are able to offer explicit instruction in the language. If you just hope that people are going to pick it up themselves, what should we pay you for? 🙂
    I agree that authentic input is important, but learners of a language as a second language differ from children acquiring their first language in that they already speak a language, so they already have linguistic habits that need to be un-learned to a certain extent, and in that they have less time because they have a lot to do besides learning the language. That’s why we do want to give people explicit instruction. A lot can be done to help them learn more effectively.

    in reply to: Teaching grammar without grammar #828
    Kirsten Middeke
    Keymaster

    The phrase is from a poster that announced a talk, it was about teaching grammar without mentioning grammar.
    You’re perfectly right, of course, it’s impossible to teach (or to use) language without grammar. But YouTube has many videos with titles like “Learn English without grammar”, and many of my own former students of German said things like “Ich suche einen Konversationskurs, ich möchte lieber ohne Grammatik Deutsch lernen.” So my question is: how can we teach grammar without talking about grammar? 🙂

    in reply to: Dark [ɫ] and varieties/accents #805
    Kirsten Middeke
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    Ah, thanks, Alexander, for pointing this out! It’s really hard to see in a small font, I didn’t notice. Here’s the Polish alphabet with the proper <ł>=/w/: https://images.lingvozone.com/languages/Language%20Information31_files/image001.gif
    But since <ɫ> and <ł> are probably never in contrastive distribution, the difference doesn’t lead to any confusion luckily.
    Polish /w/ developed out of Proto-Slavic /l/, via Old Polish /ɫ/, where original /l/ was followed by another consonant, if I understand correctly. Wikipedia lists some of the relavant sound changes at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Polish#Phonetic_processes_from_Proto-Slavic, based on Stanisław Rospond. 2005. Gramatyka historyczna języka polskiego, Warszawa-Wrocław it seems (there’s no proper citation in the text, only a references list). It seems as if the change /ɫ/>/w/ (vocalization) happened in the 16th century, after Polish already had an orthography based on the Latin alphabet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-vocalization#Polish_and_Sorbian, information from Leksykon terminów i pojęć dialektologicznych, s.v. Wałczenie), and probably, as Alexander says, after [l] and [ɫ] had become different phonemes as other sound changes created minimal pairs.
    Maybe we can ask Magdalena for confirmation/more information.

    in reply to: Etymology vs. meaning — politically important! #757
    Kirsten Middeke
    Keymaster

    Well, I’d be the last person to claim that etymology and historical linguistics aren’t fascinating. 🙂 We should look at the synchronic and the diachronic dimension. But we have to keep them apart conceptually. Your example with the names is a good one. I can certainly study the etymology of names (and also their morphology), but the fact that someone is called Müller or Krüger or Potter or Miller (derivation, root {mill} + agent-suffix {er}) doesn’t tell us anything about the person. It tells us something about their distant ancestors, but that doesn’t predict anything about today.
    (Btw, do you know Schirm Schirmer in Steglitz?)
    Schirm Schirmer

    in reply to: Etymology vs. meaning — politically important! #755
    Kirsten Middeke
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    in reply to: Plural morphs in German #748
    Kirsten Middeke
    Keymaster

    I thought so, too. Unfortunately, the German corpora I have access to don’t seem to distinguish number in nouns, so I can’t use them to find out which is the most frequent.
    In any case, the fact that so many people seem to believe that {s} is the usual one suggests that {s} is the most productive. What happens when new words enter the language, for example through borrowing from other languages. Which plurals do you use then?

    in reply to: Phrase and Sentence #681
    Kirsten Middeke
    Keymaster

    Dear Jozielly,
    We won’t do syntax until next week, so instead of a definition I’ll give you examples for the time being.
    sentence: They have always been the same thing to me, but apparently they are not. (everything between two full stops)
    clause: They have always been the same thing to me.
    clause: But apparently they are not. (everything that belongs to the same verb)
    phrase: the same thing
    phrase: to me (everything that stays together when moved or replaced)

    in reply to: Minimal pairs #614
    Kirsten Middeke
    Keymaster

    Is /p/ aspirated in Alpaca?

    in reply to: Minimal pairs #613
    Kirsten Middeke
    Keymaster

    And to clarify (this came up in the seminar today): a phoneme is a unit of language. Phonemes are bundles of features (/p/ is a voiceless bilabial stop), and features that differentiate between phonemes in a specific language are called contrastive features. So voicing is a contrastive feature in English, because there are minimal pairs that differ only with respect to voicing (pit vs. bit). You can also say that voicing is phonologically relevant in English, or that aspiration is phonologically relevant (i.e. meaning-distinguishing) in Russian but not in English. (Can someone post a minimal pair from Russian?)

    Do try to use linguistic terminology, it makes it a lot easier to understand what you mean and to decide whether what you’re suggesting is correct or not.

    in reply to: Minimal pairs #612
    Kirsten Middeke
    Keymaster

    Yes, there is something to add.

    Minimal pairs are defined as the smallest meaning- distinguishing units in language. That means that the meaning can change when only one letter is different in a word. For example the letters /p/ (voiceless bilabial plosive) and /b/ (voiced bilabial plosive) only deviate in the voicing and are therefore two different sounds. These two letters change the whole meaning of a word: pit- die Grube, bit- das Stückchen.

    The smallest meaning-distinguishing unit in language is a phoneme. That meanst that meaning can change if only one phoneme is changed. /p/ and /b/ are phonemes/sounds, NOT letters. (PLEASE stop talking about letters. Letters don’t matter. Knit and wit is a minimal pair, even though two letters are different.)

    in reply to: Feedback on homework (not just grade) #565
    Kirsten Middeke
    Keymaster

    You misidentified one of the words and you didn’t answer the second question.

    in reply to: Glottal stop (Week 4 homework) #562
    Kirsten Middeke
    Keymaster

    (I just took out some code from Jozielly’s answer, to make it readable.)

    in reply to: English orthography #557
    Kirsten Middeke
    Keymaster

    Probably not.  But the question is: why does it work for words that we do know?

    in reply to: Linguistics is descriptive… #556
    Kirsten Middeke
    Keymaster

    So let’s say I say things like

    • weil(,) ich habe die Antworten noch nicht korrigiert
    • you and me should talk
    • wegen dem Lockdown geht das jetzt nicht

    Does this bother you? How much variation can you tolerate?

    (I find it difficult to come up with examples for English, can anyone help?)

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